most newspapers have web sites at this point. newspaper to me now. >> i lived in crown heights, brooklyn, which has traditionally been considered a lower income neighborhood and is going through a rapid gentrification. i just moved there three years ago after living in a very high price neighborhood in manhattan. i love my neighborhood. in brooklyn. now there's a new york times seller at my subway stop, just happened. i'm like, gentrification roles in and then the newspaper. it would've been nice to have it before. tons of really smart people have always lived in the neighborhood. there are thriving immigrant families who would've been happy to read the new york times for years excess of a kiosk on the way to work there are assumptions at play. want to applaud your question about how to relate to these other folks. i interviewed the editor of the milwaukee journal sentinel. >> toward stanley cup? -- stanley? >> no. >> marty? >> yes. it was after the and shooting of the sikh people. he said that he loves having people not like him